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Second of Several Educational Business Note Seminars Announced for 2002

San Francisco, California Saturday, April 27, 2002
(Location to be announced…)

*Additional cities have been selected but dates not yet finalized. Click here for for details:

Over the years you may have had the opportunity to participate in one of Ed Lisogar's numerous speaking engagements. Whether at The Paper Source, Noteworthy, Cash Flow or one of the many financial conventions across the country, Ed's no nonsense approach to all facets of the cash flow industry guarantees standing room only sessions that are both informative and entertaining. But make no mistake…the bottom line is knowledge…and an expedited road to success for all of National Capital's associate brokers.

A respected author, Ed has written two books for brokers new to the cash flow industry. In 2000, following years of demand for detailed information on the topic, Ed released his critically acclaimed best seller:

"The Business of Business Notes"

…the only instructional manual on the market devoted specifically to the high profit arena of buying and brokering seller financed business notes.

Don't take our word for it...see what industry professionals are saying about this ground breaking instructional manual!

Now you can spend an entire day with one of the most dynamic instructors, lecturers, authors and public speakers in the cash flow industry, participating in a hands on discussion of the fastest growing segment of the cash flow industry.

Whether brokering for fees or buying for yourself, this exciting one day session will provide:

· A beginners "walk-through" of how business notes are created
· Recognizing salable business notes…"stop wasting your time!"
· Marketing for business notes/The secret "hiding place"
· Building a referral base for business notes
· Negotiating with the seller/understanding different options
· Actual written presentations from successful acquisitions
· Copies of typical business note security instruments
· What to watch out for when buying your own notes
· Secrets to minimizing the discounts
· Due diligence checklists
· Purchase Agreements

In addition…All attendees will receive:

· Classroom workbook with all instructor material
· $250 commission bonus good on the first business note closed with NCC
· "One-on-One" e-mail mentoring with Ed Lisogar for six months
· Plus…as an added bonus all attendees will receive a copy of his best selling manual and software "The Business of Business Notes", the only step by step program in the industry devoted specifically to the fastest growing segment of the cash flow industry, a $129 value in itself.

The full day and all of the added bonuses
are included for only …$149!

Think of it…the $250 commission bonus alone makes the one day session free! The workbook, the manual & software package and e-mail mentoring are all literally provided at no charge, not to mention the value of an entire day together with the leading authority on this high profit cash flow! The benefits of this rare opportunity speak for itself. The commission bonus, the book, the software and the mentoring aside, you'll learn first hand (and at literally no cost), the secrets of this industry leader; the closing methods they've developed that's achieved a 60% "kill ratio," the marketing programs that provide an endless stream of referrals, and most importantly, how Ed's been able to rocket from "green broker" to leading industry funding source in just four short years.

Seating at each city is limited, register today by sending your $149 check, payable to National Capital Corporation, to:

National Capital Corporation
Main Office/3605 N. 68th Street
Scottsdale, AZ 85251

Feel free to contact Ed personally by e-mail at info@nationalcapitalcorp.com with any questions you may have about these exciting one day sessions.

* Don't take our word for it...see what past attendees are saying about this powerful session!

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Why the Big Discounts in Business Notes?

Over the years numerous cash flows and income streams have been introduced to cash flow brokers as yet another means to generate income. Without a doubt the fastest-growing segment of our industry, in our humble opinion of course, is the brokering, buying and selling of business notes.

A "true" business note is created when a party sells a business, but there is no real estate involved as security (there are transactions where real estate is involved, but that's a topic for another article). The seller sells the rights to operate the business, to continue utilizing the present company name (if the buyer so desires) and to take advantage of the steady clientele the previous owner has built up over the years.

All of these issues come in to play when we, as investors, review a business note for potential purchase. As there is no real estate as security, business notes all possess a risk factor which is directly related to the desired yield.

"No risk, no reward" and "No pain, no gain" are two phrases that fit the business note buying arena. As there is no real estate and typically little in tangible, foreclosable assets securing most business notes, they are viewed by the industry as very risky investments. As such the present market yields run typically in the 20% range and higher, depending on the deal.

When buying a business note we are really counting on the good creditworthiness of the payor, and as such most investors generally will not buy a note that is not personally guaranteed, has a personal signature of a credit worthy individual(s) on the note. You can imagine the smoke screen a corporation can throw in your face in the event of a default: Therefore most investors are looking for an individual promise to pay; and that individual must have a top-notch credit history.

Will investors ever buy a note that's corporately guaranteed? Sure, under the right circumstances...high equity, great seasoning, strong company payor with a strong D&B, etc., but just remember, we'd prefer to see a personal signature on the note when it comes to business notes.

Secondly, as there is little security for these notes, payor equity is a crucial factor in an investor's review of any note. Typically, a minimum 30% down or more is required for a note to be salable. There are always exceptions however, we want to see that the buyer is truly committed to making this business a success and a buyer with 30%-40% down will do every- thing he can if times get "lean" versus a buyer that contributed 10% down and then realized that owning your own business and being your own boss is not arriving at 10 a.m., leaving at 3 p.m., two to three days a week.

As with any note that requires a high yield to the investor, large discounts are typically the result. While business noteholders are by far the most motivated of note sellers, rarely are they ready for what a yield in the 20% range will provide in terms of the discount and what their note is worth in the secondary market.

Have you noticed that most note sellers, regardless of the type of note, all have a 10% discount firmly entrenched in their minds? I'm convinced that all the noteholders of the world participated in a conference call and decided that 10% is where they should all be. The problem lies in that we do not (arguably) approach notes from a "discount" standpoint, per se, but from yield. Obviously yield and discount are directly related. However, the discount will be affected by numerous factors like the face rate of the note, seasoning, equity, and more than all else, the number of payments being purchased.

We have the greatest success demonstrating to potential clients the benefits of a partial over a full. Pull out just the cash you need now, and retain income from all the future payments still to come. Plus, a client can always go back to the income stream at a later date and repeat the process if and when he requires additional cash in the future. This will always be a more attractive option for your clients.

Ed Lisogar is President of National Capital Corporation, Scottsdale, Arizona. He is an author, a national speaker/instructor and was an Arizona Entrepreneur of the Year nominee in 1997, 1999 and 2001. National Capital Corporation is one of leading business note buyers in the country in addition to buying all forms of paper nationwide.

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Grand Bank no Longer Buying Notes

Grand Bank, a well known buyer of real estate notes has suspended its note buying operations.

According to Rob Guyse, Senior Contract Buyer, "Due to our recent agreement with CitiGroup, we are temporarily taking our company out of the owner-finance market".

"We have recently acquired the servicing of a large portfolio of loans from CitiGroup, formerly the Associates PMO. Over the next several months we will be concentrating all of our efforts on servicing this pool of loans".

Rob advises that they will be re-entering the market at some point in the future, possibly in six to nine months at which time they hope to have an updated pricing matrix and loan guidelines.

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Simultaneous Closings Becoming a Rare Commodity

SC's are slowly becoming extinct. Investors like NCC are watching in dismay as personal BK's and personal mortgage defaults continue to reach epidemic proportions. The once secure SFR, O/O note has now become more of a risky proposition.

Where the roof over a Payor's family's heads was once the last to default, Payor's are walking away from their obligations on their personal residency in record numbers (thank the government for making it so easy to file and walk from your debts).

Additionally, we're seeing a tremendous increase in fraud as it pertains to "rehabber" paper. Shoddy work, work not completed AT ALL are some of the reasons that investors want to see some track record. The Associates, just before their demise, instituted a policy requiring the Payor to sign a secondary Estopple that literally stated that the Payors were happy with the property, that all renovations were completed and satisfactory, etc. etc. Even THAT didn't prevent them from closing their doors.

As a result, we typically want to see 3-4 months pay history to confirm the Payor has the ability to make the payment as scheduled and hasn't bitten off more than he can reasonably chew.

Minimum acceptable credit scores are up to about 600 FICO, and ITV perameters are dropping.

As always it's up to you to ensure your clients, the one's that are considering selling a note shortly after closing, understand that they will likely have to wait a few months, and PARTICULARLY that they will realize varying discounts.

THEY WILL NOT BE CASHING OUT AT PAR.

Too many sellers are aghast when we discuss the discount issue with them. In most cases this is the first time this IMPORTANT aspect has been raised.

Save yourself a lot of time and frustration by getting to the heart of this matter in your very first conversation with a seller. A seller looking for PAR or minimal discounts on notes that have little Payor equity going in and possibly poor credit is simply wasting your time.

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Whose "Hangin'" at The Forum?!

The Forum page at NCC's web site is the place to "hang" to pick up the latest tips, techniques and answers to questions relating to a variety of arenas in your industry. You never who will be joining in on the conversation.

Have a question about a deal you're working? Not sure if there's a market for certain cash flows? Wondering what's the best way to find certain note types?

There's a new clearing house for questions like these and ANYTHING you have to discuss at the NCC "FORUM"! Post questions or comments on a variety of topics. Join in on an ongoing discussion. Respond to postings from other brokers as well as investors. Share your experience with your fellow brokers. It's all there for you at the "Forum". Visit the Forum now!

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Quoting the Deal…an article by former Metropolitan Mortgage Executive Mike Kirk

"How do I hold on to the mortgage seller after I give them the quote? They never seem to call back after our initial conversation. I give hundreds of quotes, yet only get a few deals, and then most of these back out before funding. Is this normal for the industry?"

In order to be successful in the note buying industry, you should be aware of three important factors before you ever give your first quote:

* You are dealing with a client.
* You are dealing with that client's money.
* The note you are dealing with is usually the client's largest asset.

A big misconception throughout the industry is that whoever offers the best price, and can close the fastest, will get the deal. This couldn't be further from the truth. Look at the three factors. They all point to one thing: TRUST. It doesn't matter how much you offer, or how fast you close, if the client doesn't trust you, they won't deal with you.

So how do you build that trust, especially when your only contact is that one time they call for a quote? They don't know you, they are entering an area they know nothing about, and they are risking what may be their life savings. In a matter of minutes, you need to get over all these hurdles. Can it be done? Of course it can, if you project the essential qualities.

Professionalism - You are running a business and are representing yourself as a professional in that business. That message needs to be conveyed from the outset.

If you work out of your home, get a separate line just for business purposes. If a potential client calls you for a quote, and hears "Hello?" when you answer, you're already heading downhill. If your eight-year-old son or daughter answers, or they get an answering machine message saying "You have reached the Jones'. Please leave a message after the beep," you're finished. They will seldom call back.

Lay down some rules in your household. Children should not answer your business line. If you or anyone you've authorized answer, it should always be with, "Jones Investment Services. May I help you?" or something along those lines. Avoid background noise, like children crying, dogs barking, or TVs and stereos blaring. All this detracts from you presenting a professional image. And, if authorized individuals are not available to answer the phone, the call should be directed to a voice mail or answering service or answering machine with a professional message.

When a potential client does call, take charge of the conversation immediately, but do it in a courteous and professional manner. For example, Metropolitan's buyers usually start with something like the following:

"I'd be happy to give you a quote. If you have a few minutes, I'd like to ask you some questions, but before we start, are you calling long distance? Yes? Then let me have your phone number and I'll call you right back. The questions take about 5-10 minutes, and I know how expensive long distance rates are these days." (If the client is calling locally, the buyer would simply say, "Fine. These questions take about 5-10 minutes, and I didn't want you to incur long distance charges.")

This simple, friendly greeting establishes the tone for the entire conversation and negotiation. It shows professionalism, courtesy, compassion and prominence. You have shown the client that you have done this many times before, you understand and care about the expense they have incurred just calling you, and you are willing to absorb that expense yourself as a matter of business. In addition, his approach has obligated the client to listen and answer all the questions you may have. You have taken charge of the conversation, and, therefore, the negotiation.

Confidence - When talking to a potential client, you need to radiate confidence. They have to be convinced you know what you are talking about.

Don't fumble around when discussing money. Have a set approach to your quoting procedures. Once you have established that they do indeed hold a note, have a predetermined list of questions.

Be concise with your questions, but speak plain English. Only a handful of people understand our business, so don't use technical phrases if you can avoid it. People feel uncomfortable if they're asked questions they don't understand. For example, rather than asking "Are the original Note and Deed of Trust held in an escrow account? If so, we will need an Estoppel letter from that agent," phrase the question a little differently. "Does the purchaser make the payments directly to you, or do they go to your bank first? Do you have the legal documents, or are they held by your bank? Can you get them to give you a signed statement showing the payment history?" By phrasing the questions the right way, you can still get all the information you need without making the client feel uncomfortable.

Ask all the questions. You cannot give an accurate quote with only half the information. Many brokers try to hurry the conversation, thinking they are going to lose the deal if they don't give a quote immediately. If the client is serious about selling their note, just the opposite is true. Most note sellers are first-timers, and they want to understand everything that is involved. Remember, you're dealing with their money. The client doesn't want to be hurried. If you are asking pointed, concise questions, and they are becoming impatient, then they are not serious, and you shouldn't waste your time. Don't let them hurry you into giving them a figure until you are comfortable that you know everything.

Don't beg. We've all been approached by people who wanted something from us. Even though they may not say anything directly, you can sense it, even if it's over the phone. Maybe you haven't closed a deal in months and your own mortgage payment is due. Put that fact aside. If you are desperate for the deal, that message comes across in your tone, and the client will lose confidence in you.

Don't be afraid to give the quote. You should have asked enough questions to give you a good picture of the situation. You know why they are interested in selling, what they need, and what the value of the note is. Give the quote with confidence. If you stumble when you give them the numbers, or present the numbers apologetically, you have probably lost the deal.

This is a very common malady, especially among newer broker. Why? Because they are not comfortable themselves with the fact that they have to discount the note. They are not comfortable with, nor do they fully understand the time value of money. It should be expected that the client won't understand, but as a professional, you should not only understand, but be able to convey the quote in such a confident manner that there is no question as to the legitimacy of the numbers you're quoting. The time value of money is not something used exclusively in the note business. It comes into play, in one form or another, in every financial transaction. Why do you think banks charge interest?

Don't feel guilty about discounting a note. The client will sense it. It comes across in your manner, and will either cost you the deal, or at the very least, put you in a weak negotiating position.

Remember, you are a professional. You know what you're talking about. You care about your clients. You provide the best service possible to your clients. You pay a fair price for the notes you buy. Every potential client you talk to should hang up the phone with that same feeling.

Michael A. Kirk was Vice President of Metropolitan Mortgage & Securities Co., Inc., for many years.

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Successful Businesses Require Hard Work and a Business Plan

You're all set to start a new small business. You have a good idea, the talent to make it work and a ready market for your products or services. All that's needed now is to open the door and let the sales start rolling in.

If only small business success was that easy.

The truth is that successful businesses are the result of hard work, careful planning and more hard work. And behind every successful small business, there's a good business plan that helped make it work.

A business plan provides the small business owner with a plan of action that covers every aspect of its development and operation. The business plan examines the environment in which a business operates, describes how the business will function and anticipates potential problems and opportunities. The plan suggests solutions to problems and responses to opportunities. The business plan is the definite document that showcases your clear thinking about the business.

If you plan to seek financing, a copy of your business plan will generally be required as a way to substantiate that you have a valid business idea and realistic plans for business success. You should answer the following questions: Who are your target customers and how will you gain their business? What will competitors do to offset your presence in the market? What are the new trends developing in your field and how will you accommodate them? After your business is established, how will you make the business grow?

Don't be surprised if addressing these issues raises more questions and issues you hadn't considered. Both from a financing and operational perspective, the business plan should address future contingencies. Putting your ideas in writing forces you to think realistically about what the business can achieve under the best conditions, and the worst. Preparing a business plan may sound like a lot of work, and it is. But the benefits are well worth the investment Planning helps guarantee that you have defined and described business objets such as sales, expenses and the goals of your business. The more detailed and accurate your plan, the better prepared you'll be to handle the day-to-day challenges of building a successful business.

Start-up and existing businesses can both benefit from a written business plan. A free workbook, "How to Really Start Your Own Business," is available through the SCORE Association, also known as Counselors to America's Small Business. This workbook provides a framework for developing a business plan and answering key questions that will influence how the business operates. A SCORE counselor can meet with you confidentially to discuss your business plan and how to improve an existing plan or write that first business plan. All business counseling is free and confidential.

If you would like to discuss business planning, business start-up or business expansion, contact SCORE. More than 11,500 volunteer business counselors donate their time and expertise to assist entrepreneurs. SCORE is a nonprofit organization that provides free and confidential business counseling as a community service.

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National Mobile Home Lender Calls It Quits

GreenPoint Financial Corp., New York, is exiting the manufactured housing lending business just three years after acquiring the second-largest originator of these loans.

Thomas S. Johnson, chairman and chief executive of GreenPoint, said the company had concluded that "the expected returns, the necessary level of capital support, and the inherent earnings volatility do not justify staying in the manufactured housing finance business."

As a result of the decision, GreenPoint -- which says it now ranks as the third-largest originator of MH loans -- will take $663 million in charges to earnings. This will result in a net loss per share of $6.19 to $6.29 in the fourth quarter of 2001. The company said it will sell $850 million of manufactured housing loans on its balance sheet. The Fitch rating agency said it was not surprised by the announcement and had factored in the expected decision when it downgraded GreenPoint on Jan. 22, 2001.

"This announcement clearly recognizes that the company's foray into manufactured housing lending … has been a major disappointment," Fitch declared.

nationalmortgagenews.com, Jan. 3, 2002

Editor's note: The blood bath continues as yet another lender has had all the losses they can stomach. As a result, the steady stream of pools and portfolios of MH paper w/o land will increase as dealers and private sellers shop the hell out of their paper, determined to find a buyer to provide the PAR pricing they had become accustomed to from loan originators. It is up to the brokers of the industry to educate the MH world that those days are over. Best case scenario we've seen to date has MH w/o land pools trading at 70% and DOWN. Save yourself a lot of time by insisting a seller of this collateral type provide a indication of what they reasonably expect for the pool they are shopping.

E.L./NCC

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Scandal in the White House

Certainly there is a political dimension here.

Enron's chairman did meet with the president and the vice president in the Oval Office.

Enron gave $420,000 to the president's party over three years.

It donated $100,000 to the president's inauguration festivities.

The Enron chairman stayed at the White House 11 times.

The corporation had access to the administration at its highest levels and even enlisted the Commerce and State Departments to grease deals for it.

The taxpayer-supported Export-Import Bank subsidized Enron for more than $600 million in just one transaction.

BUT...

The president under whom all this happened wasn't George W. Bush…

…It was Bill Clinton.

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"Nigerian Letter" goes Internet

Nigerian Money Scams Thrive On The Internet …by Brian McWilliams

The arrival of Internet cafes in Nigeria a few years ago has given new life to an old scam that's been bleeding millions of dollars annually from gullible Americans and Europeans, experts say.

The fraud, which gained its name from the relevant section of Nigeria's penal code, has lately become a way of life for many people in cities such as Lagos, where economic opportunities are severely limited, according to the U.S. Secret Service.

The unsolicited messages, which are usually sent from Web mail accounts at providers such as Yahoo, entice greedy recipients with the false promise of windfall profits in exchange for helping the sender recover millions of dollars in frozen or hidden assets.

Annual losses attributed to the scams are in the hundreds of millions of dollars, according to U.S. Treasury officials.

The e-mail-based scams have almost completely displaced the faxes and postal mailings used when Nigerian money frauds first appeared nearly 25 years ago. Credit the attractive economics of junk mailing or "spamming," as well as the anonymity of Internet messaging, experts said.

The e-mail typically arrives with a subject line such as "Business Relationship" or "Strictly Confidential" and appears to be written by a prominent Nigerian connected to the nation's government or banking system.

Authorities wouldn't disclose how many people have been victimized by the Nigerian money scams, but they report that some individuals have been bilked out of hundreds of thousands of dollars, mostly in the form of fraudulent fees, which the scammers claim are required to release the victim's take of the non-existent booty.

The Secret Service has set up a special e-mail address for reporting Nigerian money fraud, 419.fcd@usss.treas.gov, which has generated a swelling database of such spams. But officials concede the e-mail messages provide little in the way of forensic fodder for their investigations.

The Internet protocol addresses in the message headers invariably lead to public computers at Net cafes where usage is not logged. And subpoenas to Yahoo, America Online, and other e-mail providers used by the scammers seldom produce solid leads, law enforcement officials said.

The Nigerian spams are usually sent from fictitious account names derived from those of well-known Nigerian citizens. The scammers, like garden-variety spammers, harvest the e-mail addresses of their prospects from places including corporate and University Web sites as well as Usenet discussion groups and online message boards, according to Secret Service experts.

While the crimes may be based in cyberspace, much of the Secret Service's investigative headway occurs in Nigeria, where its task force maintains offices and collaborates with local police. But Nigeria remains a hospitable place for scams because of inconsistent enforcement of the country's laws, Secret Service officials said.

Here is the most recent version making the rounds:

Private Business Proposal.

Dr Gbenga Alfred.
16 Kingsway Road
Ikoyi, Lagos
Nigeria..
Email: gbengaalfred@lycos.co.uk
Tel:234 1 775 9426
Tel/Fax: 234 1774 8893.
Fax:234 1 759 1304
15th, March 2002.

Request for Urgent Business Relationship.

First I must solicit your confidence in this transaction. This is by virtue of its nature as being utterly confidential and top secret. We shall be counting on your ability and reliability to prosecute a transaction of great magnitude involving a pending business transaction requiring maximum confidence.

We are top officials of the Federal Government Contract Review Panel who are interested in importation of goods into our country with funds which are presently trapped in Nigeria. In order to commence this business we solicit your assistance to enable us RECIEVE the said trapped funds ABROAD.

The source of this fund is as follows : During the regime of our late head of state, Gen. Sani Abacha, the government officials set up companies and awarded themselves contracts which were grossly over-invoiced in various Ministries. The NEW CIVILIAN Government set up a Contract Review Panel (C.R.P) and we have identified a lot of inflated contract funds which are presently floating in the Central Bank of Nigeria (C.B.N). However, due to our position as civil servants and members of this panel, we cannot acquire this money in our names. I have therefore, been delegated as a matter of trust by my colleagues of the panel to look for an Overseas partner INTO whose ACCOUNT the sum of US$31,000,000.00 (Thirty one Million United States Dollars) WILL BE PAID BY TELEGRAPHIC TRANSFER. Hence we are writing you this letter.

We have agreed to share the money thus: 70% for us (the officials) 20% for the FOREIGN PARTNER (you) 10% to be used in settling taxation and all local and foreign expenses.

It is from this 70% that we wish to commence the importation business. Please note that this transaction is 100% safe in all it's ramifications and we hope that the funds arrive your account in latest ten (10) banking days from the date of reciept of the following information by email: Asuitable name and bank account into which the funds can be paid.

The above information will enable us write letters of claim and job description respectively. This way we will use your company's name to apply for payments and re-award the contract in your company name.

We are looking forward to doing business with you and solicit your confidentiality in this transaction.

For security reasons and in order to move forward quickly, please respond to me by Tel/Fax:234 1 774 8893 so I can bring you into the complete picture of this pending project and provide more information as to the successful conclusion of this project. The best response however, would be by telephone, so we can discuss fully all issues needed to complete this venture in good time, and successfully.

Thank you and God bless.

Yours Faithfully,

Dr Gbenga Alfred.

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Broker Question of the Month

Every issue the staff at NCC select a question from the NCC Forum to share with our newsletter subscribers. Got a question, comment, story or experience to share? Post it at the NCC Forum.

This issue's posting is by "Jim" who wrote:

Q: Why would real estate agents spend the time and work with me after the real estate sale has closed? They have their commission already in their pocket...where's the incentive?

A: You're correct. There doesn't appear to be any incentive to a RE agent after the sale, to work with you referring or helping locate seller's that carried paper. Allow me to disagree.

The incentive is there if you frame it correctly.

Few of us go through life without complaining at least once about a lack of "service after the fact". We offer a paid for program to brokers in all venues that at WORST, provides a service after the fact that will build rapport between the broker and their past clients, clients that very well COULD be future clients.

Here's how it works: Broker spends a minimal amount of time assembling a mailing list of past clients that carried paper. They drop that list into an overnight to us with a handful of THEIR letterhead. We send a professional, tactful letter that comes FROM the broker advising that they are simply constacting them as a service to their valued clientel, and that should they ever have a need for a lump sum of cash, they are associated with NCC and we'd be happy to provide a no obligation evaluation of their note. We pay for the printing, the postage, everything.

Why would a broker/RE agent do this? Well for starters, it's a nice touch, totally unsolicited that is well received. If nothing else it makes you look like a hero for getting in touch with a past client. Don't forget, that past client may always be a future client...who do you think they will think of down the road when they need a RE Agent, Business Broker, etc.?

However, most RE agenst need more incentive than that (sad to say). Here it is: We pay a flat 2% fee to them should one of those leads decide to sell their note.

Best of all it doesn't cost these people a penny and it has lead to many leads and closed deals for our company.


By Sharon on 3/25/02 10:41:52 PM :

Q. As for the 2% referral fee, is it 2% of the note's selling price?


A. By Ed Lisogar on 3/25/02 11:03:30 PM :

Exactly...2% of the funded amount.

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...And finally

The only way to walk away from the stock market with a small fortune is too have walked in with a large one.

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